(Tarly ordered that a whore be washed inside and out with lye soap, which sounds useless and cruel.)
More years spent as a whore means more patrons means a greater chance of catching the pox, which seems to be incurable. Anything rare can become a trophy to boast about - and that's exactly how Lazy Leo and LF speak of girls' virginities. Tragically, young girls are probably recognised as desirable for more mundane reasons (evil can be mundane too). I don't think there's an epidemic of paedophilia in Westeros. But openly lusting after 12 and 13 year olds is not the norm. Marriage and lust are two separate things in the noble world. Lusting after 12 and 13 year olds does not appear to be the norm for adult men in Westeros.īut the point is Tywin does not think Tyrion should be lusting after Sansa at her age. And the fact that it is only a select amount of whore houses who specialize in girls that young suggests that this is not an everyday vice. Ned's not that out of step with the people of Westeros. And finally, I hate having to say this again, but : Rape is bad Orm. I think you will say no, but seriously, I think you need to read victims stories and try ro put yourself in their shoes. If you are interested, I can DM you links. Can I seriously suggest something to you Orm? I really think you should learn more about rape. Many people, like you are doing right here, downplay marital and date rape as not actually rape, for this very reason. Cersei was not screaming "I am being raped" as many marital and date rape victims don't. Lastly, it isn't suprising that Barristan and Jaime wouldn't mention Cersei's rape. Keep my name out of your mouth (or rather out of your.writing) unless you are speaking to me directly. People get to disagree with you, and shouldn't have their names dragged for doing so. This isn't Orm's facebook, this is a forum where people share ideas. If you do it again, we are going to have a real problem. You have repeatedly used straw man arguments against me, misconstrued my words, and blatantly lied about what I have said. I repeatedly told you that I agreed with that Cersei was worse than Robert, and merely that Cersei doing bad things doesn't excuse Robert doing bad things, but most specifically that no one deserves to be raped. I clearly stated the shitty things Robert. Thirdly, I did not "air" my personal story.
In fact, go check how much yiu have posted compared to me on this topic. Now secondly, I was not "ranting" anymore than you are. However, an aspect of rape, is that it is indeed emotionally abusive, especially when the perpetrator intentionally downplays the rape and gaslights the victim. Emotional abuse could, I suppose be on par with rape. You can't redefine a word because it's defintion isn't convenient to your argument.
You, Orm, were ranting and raving about, "What a great guy Robert was" and "I don't care about Cersei's rape becayse she is worse than Robert" and "Its not rape, just forced sex". compare that to Cersei's emotional abuse and evil deceit on every turn. And Robert after getting the off putting gesture from her, leaves her as she is. Jaime and Barristan(while they do mention the brutalisation of Rhaella by the mad cunt) but never mention it, Nor does ser Arys. It wasn't actually as extreme as rape, but rather forced, and by Cersie's admission she doesn't feel victimized. Who do you think is the worse human being, Aegon I Targaryen or Robert I Baratheon?Īnd I did go back to read the Cersei/Robert "rape scene". Just asking for retrospect and morality check. Ok I didn't read this when Lord Raventree hall went ranting and venting his life issues on the subject of Why Robert was more bad than good.
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